What is the meaning of Revelation 4:1? This is a fascinating verse that cause us to really think. We are going to use this verse as a launch pad for our discussion in this article. We will ask the following questions: Is John being caught up to heaven figurative of the rapture of the church? If so, does that mean that the church will not go through the Tribulation?
Let’s just jump right in and look at the word and figure these things out. There is a prophecy given in the bible that I fully believe in. It is commonly called the rapture of the church. It is the belief that one day Christ will return in the clouds and he will catch away all of those who are Christians. We will meet Christ in the clouds, in the air and we will forever be with him. Some people like that idea because people who aren’t right with God will be left behind.
When I was a boy this was so real to me that when I was about 14, I had an experience where I thought that I had missed the rapture. I wasn’t living right and I knew it. I was asleep in my bedroom. I woke up to find that my family had been eating supper. The water was running in the kitchen sink. There was a fork on the floor. The cars were in the driveway and my family was nowhere to be found. I thought I had missed it. Did I cry out to the Lord! (My family had gone for ice cream with some others.) God used that to cause me to desire to stay right with him.
The main verse that teaches this is found in 1 Thessalonian 4:16-18 “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.”
There are a number of things I want to call your attention to in this verse.
First, there are many people who don’t believe in or try to deny the rapture of the church. And they will say things like the word rapture isn’t even found in the bible. That is true. You will not find the word rapture in an English bible. However, if you go back to the original language of Greek you will find a word harpazo, (ἁρπάζω), meaning “to snatch away” or “to seize,” and explains that believers in Jesus Christ will be snatched away from earth into the air. The word rapture is derived from Medival Latin raptura (“seizure, kidnapping”), which derives from the Latin raptus (“a carrying off”). They simply have taken a Latin word to describe the Greek word. So, if you were reading this in Latin, in Medival Latin you would find the word rapture. In every field of language there are words. It is unintelligent to not understand that people use words to describe things. This word simply has caught on to describe this catching away that will take place one day.
By the way, at the end of this article I have 23 different verses that reference this same event either in part or in whole of the doctrine of the rapture of the church.
Secondly, to understand the meaning of Revelation 4:1 we need to examine 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18. In this verse we have the following:
- The voice of Jesus it says “the Lord Himself will descend from heaven.”
- The trumpet call “and with the trumpet of God.”
- We have the church being “harpazo’ed” or rapture, being caught away.
- They find themselves “meeting the Lord”
So with those four little details in mind I want to read the verse in Revelation 4:1-2 “After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this. Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne.”
In this verse we have the following just like in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17:
- We have the voice of Jesus. That voice was saying Come up here.
- We have the mention of a trumpet.
- We have John being snatched away or caught away up into heaven.
- We have John being found in the presence of God
I think that all of this is very important. Here is why. This verse is a type of the rapture of the church. It prefigures the rapture. John is a part of the church. And what is interesting is that Revelation 4:1-2 NKJV begins with these words: “After these things I looked,” We have to ask ourselves this question. After what things? After the church ages. Remember the key verse to understanding the book of Revelation is found in Revelation 1:19, “Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.” The “things which you have seen” refers to the encounter with Jesus. The “things which are” refers to the church age and the seven types of churches, and then “the things which will take place after” refers to what is yet to come. As we continue through the book of Revelation we are going to see all the things that will yet take place. The rapture has not yet taken place.
What I see and what I teach is that the meaning of Revelation 4:1 prefigures the complete rapture of the church that has yet to take place. Now I want you to understand that there are…
Four Views of the Rapture
- Pre-Tribulation View (Most prevalent)
Jesus returns for the church and the church meets him in the clouds before the Tribulation. Then the rest of the world is going to go through an hour of trial, a difficult season of seven years call the tribulation period. I think that this is absolutely the correct view. Jesus Christ comes in fulfillment of his own promise
Revelation 3:10 “Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.”
- Partial Rapture View (Very few hold to this view)
Christ will only rapture those who “look for him” or “wait for him”. This waiting is seen as those who have no financial debt or those who have reached a certain place of sanctification. Only those “special” Christians will go in the Rapture.
The key verse that is used is Hebrews 9:28 “so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.” There are many variants to the way they define waiting for him. But this teaching falsely leads some to believe that only a few of the Christians will be raptured and the rest have to go through at least part of the Tribulation period. This view has very little biblical support.
- The Mid-Tribulation View
Christ raptures his church in the middle of the tribulation along with the rapture of the two witnesses. Later on in our studies, we will discuss that God will have two powerful witness in the city of Jerusalem. Ultimately, they will die, then be resurrected, then caught away. The key verse is Revelation 11:12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.” The teaching says that Christians will have to endure the first half of the tribulation period and then they will be raptured at the same time as the two witnesses. If that is the case all of us need to be preppers. We need to have our bug out bags ready. But nowhere does the bible teach us to hoard up food and resources for the Tribulation. The problem with this view is that the two witnesses are Jews and not members of the church. It also allows Christians to receive at least partially the wrath of God.
People with this view skip over the fact that John (a member of the church) is seen in Revelation 4:1-2 as a type of rapture.
- The Post-Tribulation View
This view teaches that Christ will come at the end of the Tribulation, just before the Second Coming of Christ to the earth. There are many problems with this view: It denies Revelation 3:10 that says that God will keep them from the hour of trial that comes on the earth. In this view Christ did not fulfill his promise. It also allows Christians to suffer Gods wrath denying 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 “For they themselves declare concerning us what manner of entry we had to you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.”
I want to prove to you that the correct view is the Pre-Tribulation view. I have discovered that people on the internet, even Christians can be downright ugly as they defend their interpretation of God’s word. I won’t argue with anyone over these things.
I simply teach God’s word. I want to give seven reasons why the church will not go through the Tribulation.
- BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT OF REVELATION 4:1-2
If we see the book of Revelation as predictive of the future then this event in Revelation 4:1-2 is significant.
Revelation 4:1-3 “After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this. Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne.”
The meaning of Revelation 4:1 is seen in the following:
- The timing of this event fits in perfectly with a Pre-Tribulation view of the rapture. It makes sense that the church ages have ended because it says in Revelation 4:1 NKJV “After these things…” This shows that the time of the church is done. Chapters 4-5 speak of heaven and then chapter 6 introduces the Tribulation. It fulfills Rev 3:10 which of course is Jesus promise that says “I will also keep you from the hour of trial…” The timing of this verse fits completely with the idea of a Pre-Tribulation rapture. It makes perfect sense.
- The absence of any mention of the church in the rest of Revelation. How crazy is it that there are 16 references to the church in Revelation chapters 1-3, and then zero references to the church in Revelation chapters 6-18 that describe the Tribulation. If the church was meant to go through the Tribulation, certainly there would be at least one reference to the church. But there isn’t proving that the church has been taken out just as Jesus promised.
- The extensive use of Old Testament language and symbols in Revelation 4-18 is indicative of Israel not the church. As we further our studies we need to understand that the church age is known as the time of the gentiles. Luke 21:24 “And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” God has mostly been dealing with the Gentiles during the church age. The church is largely made up of people who are not Jewish. Whereas the Tribulation is known as “the time of Jacobs Trouble” and “Daniels 70th week.” We know that God will once again deal with his people Israel. As we start to study Revelation 4-18 we are going to see a lot of Old Testament language and symbols. Some of these Old Testament symbols are: the tabernacle, ark of the covenant, the altar, elders, censers, cherubim, seals, trumpets and plagues.
- There is similarity between Johns experience in Revelation 4:1-2 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. I looked at that earlier. The first thing to happen as the church age end is John being “called up” to heaven. It is logical that this is instructive.
Let me give you another reason why the church will not go through the Tribulation Period.
- THE LORD HIMSELF PROMISED TO DELIVER US.
I wish people could understand the importance of Revelation 3:10 “Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.” We know that Christians in different parts of the world at different times have went through difficult moments. But this verse is talking about a trial that will come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.
We are experiencing this right now with Coronavirus. This is an example of something like the Tribulation period. It has come upon the whole world. As I have taught earlier about the coronavirus. I believe that it is the beginning of sorrows as Jesus spoke of. But here is the good news. Jesus is going to keep us from the hour of trial that will come on the earth. We will be caught away.
3. ONLY THE PRE-TRIBULATION VIEW PRESERVES THE DOCTRINE THAT HIS COMING IS IMMINENT
Imminent is the word that theologically describes that Christ could come at any minute. That is why scripture has so many admonitions to watch, to be ready, and to look for him to come at any moment. Luke 12:40 “You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” How could his coming be imminent if it is mid-tribulation or post-tribulation?
Believe me, you will know if you are on the earth that the Tribulation period has started. The book of Daniel teaches that Israel will sign a covenant with a world leader who we will call the Antichrist. That covenant will be for seven years. That is when the Tribulation starts. That is Daniels 70th week. But the teaching of the rapture, the coming of Christ for his church is that he could come at any moment. There is not one thing that must be fulfilled before Christ returns for the church. This is the teaching that Christ wanted for his church because it keeps the church on fire and serving him.
- THE CHURCH IS TO BE DELIVERED FROM THE WRATH TO COME
1 Thessalonians 1:10 “and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead —Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.” The book of Revelation clearly portrays the Tribulation as the wrath of God. Let me read Revelation 6:17 “For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?” The Tribulation Period is literally God pouring out his wrath on the earth. Why would God pour his wrath out on those who have been redeemed by the shed blood of Jesus? This is not possible. God accepted Jesus sacrifice for us, the wrath of God as far as we are concerned has been paid for by Jesus Christ.
- CHRISTIANS ARE NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH
1 Thessalonians 5:9 “For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.” The very context of this scripture shows that this is in reference to the future. The previous chapter talked extensively about the rapture.
- HOW ELSE WOULD IT BE A COMFORT TO THE CHURCH?
It is not a very comforting thought that we are all going to go through three and one half or seven years of horror on the earth. Millions will die during those days . 1 Thessalonians 4:18 “Therefore encourage each other with these words.” Can you imagine someone trying to encourage and comfort each other by saying, it is only seven years of God’s wrath. Are you kidding. There is nothing encouraging or comforting about that.
- GOD’S WAY HAS BEEN TO RESCUE THE RIGHTEOUS
It is interesting that the Lord uses Noah and Lot in referring to His Return. Matthew 24:37-39 “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.”
Luke 17:28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.”
The Holy Spirit who is the author of scripture did this intentionally. While these verses describe the conditions at the coming of the Lord, these verses describe two individuals who were rescued from the wrath of God. God warned Noah and he and his family escaped the universal flood in Ark. God sent angels to Sodom and Lot escaped the fire that was rained down from heaven. These scriptures allude to that. It says. Noah entered the ark. It says Lot left Sodom. I can assure that Christ will return for the church and take us out of here just as he promised.
We have to understand the coming of the Lord is in two phases. Paul writes to Titus of these to phases in Titus 2:13 “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,”
The first phase is the blessed hope. This is the rapture of the church. Jesus will return to the clouds and will snatch away the church. It is a blessed hope because we will escape the wrath to come in the Tribulation.
And then, the second phase is His glorious appearing. Jesus will return all the way to earth and will set up a kingdom that will last for 1000 years.
He is coming soon.
Let’s be ready!
UNDERSTANDING THE TWO PHASES OF HIS COMING
| PHASES | OF | THE | 2nd COMING | |
| Rapture | Passages | Second Coming | Passages | |
| John 14:1-3 | Hebrews 9:28 | Daniel 2:44-45 | 1 Peter 4:12-13 | |
| Romans 8:19 | James 5:7-9 | Daniel 7:9-14 | 2 Peter 3:1-14 | |
| 1 Corinthians 1:7-8 | 1 Peter 1:7, 13 | Daniel 12:1-3 | Jude 14-15 | |
| 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 | 1 Peter 5:4 | Zechariah 12:10 | Revelation 1:7 | |
| 1 Corinthians 16:22 | 1 John 2:28-3:2 | Zechariah 14:1-15 | Revelation 19:11-20:6 | |
| Philippians 3:20-21 | Jude 21 | Matthew 13:41 | Revelation 22:7,12,20 | |
| Colossians 3:4 | Revelation 2:25 | Matthew 24:15-31 | ||
| 1 Thessalonians 1:10 | Revelation 3:10 | Matthew 26:64 | ||
| 1 Thessalonians 2:19 | Mark 13:14-27 | |||
| 1 Thessalonians 5:23 | Mark 14:62 | |||
| 2 Thessalonians 2:1 | Luke 21:25-28 | |||
| 1 Timothy 6:14 | Acts 1:9-11 | |||
| 2 Timothy 4:1 | Acts 3:19-21 | |||
| 2 Timothy 4:8 | 1 Thessalonians 3:13 | |||
| Titus 2:13 | 2 Thessalonians 2:8 |
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about the Rapture with me .I’m grateful pastor for your help and understanding thees scriptures of which I was confused about.God Bless you sincerely Danille Asbery
Thanks for commenting and glad you enjoyed the article.
Bob
I didn’t know that.
Thanks for your comment.
Bob
Thank you for your studies.. and your teachings.. I believe as you believe that the people that believe in God and have accepted him will not go through the tribulation… Do you know of a river that is drying up so that the Kings may cross..??. Revelations 16:16 ..I think.. you have a good day be safe
yes, the Euphrates river is drying up.
just a precursor to the real thing.
God is saying Wake up!Get right!
Bob
It is interesting that much of the drying that’s occurring right now is a man-made “Solution”.
Pastor Bob, you are 100% correct in your Bible interpretation. I stumbled upon your website during my Bible studies. Looking forward to more!
The rapture unequivocally is before the tribulation . If God puts Saints under his wrath he is putting wrath on The Holy Spirit. How will it work? He either removes The Holy Spirit and leaves the Saints. Ooops can’t happen we are sealed. Or he puts The Holy Spirit filled Saints into his wrath!!! Therefore violating Sanctification. If he violates sanctification ,then there is no salvation.
Therefore the Rapture happens before the tribulation because of The Doctrine of Salvation.God is not going to put his own HOLY SPIRIT under wrath. The argument of he protected the Israelites and Lot is the perfect example.
He saved them physically. That is what Salvation is, Noah build a boat wrath is coming. Lot hit the trail wrath is coming. Israelites stay in the house put blood on the door . Wrath is coming. Since we do not know the hour or the day the Saints will be removed for multiple reasons, the only one that matters is The Cross. Any argument of escapism is an argument of shame and is disregarded because shame only comes from Satan.
Blessings to All
Great thoughts.
Bob
We are not allowed to know the Day and time. “Since we do not know the hour or the day, the Saints“. But, we are allowed to know the conditions. It will happen on a Blood Moon, with will happen on a Jewish Feast called Rosh Hashana and they both must occur at the same time. Rosh Hashana is called the Hidden Feast for a good reason. It’s the of two day! Look it up.
What does this mean for us? We get to know the year and the month, but not the day and not the time.
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Joe, the wrath of God doesn’t commence until the exact half-way point in the seven-year Tribulation at Revelation 11:18.
REVELATION 11:18
V:18 The world was angry, and your wrath has come.
I now count five-times Jesus telling us when the Rapture will take place in the bible.
The Father has revealed to me many prophets through-out the bible that knew when the Rapture will take place and they all have one thing in common, they all got the same timeline.
Even the prophet Daniel knew exactly when the Rapture will take place and it is the same timeline that Jesus gave us in Matthew 24.
I wish there was room to show you the timeline for the Rapture.
My email is on record, so if anyone wants to see the timeline for the Rapture through-out the entire bible just ask.
There is a much more interesting question this helped to solve regarding the Euphrates.
“America is Babylon the great
When the Antichrist is at Armageddon, we are given an opportunity to answer an important question. Daniel and Revelation leave the reader wondering where is the army of the west and who is supporting the Antichrist at Armageddon. Clearly, there is only one answer possible. The army comes from America, and it is in support of the Antichrist. The argument is a simple one. If the army’s of the North, East and South at Armageddon are against Christ. Then from the point of view or location of Armageddon only one army is not known. This would be the army of the West. Therefore, it follows that the army’s of the West are in support of the Antichrist. Therefore, America must be Babylon the Great and the Western army”.
The proof will be provided based upon request. And, you will be surprised by the complete answer.
interesting thoughts.
Bob
Awesome explanation of the events of the rapture!
I am glad you enjoyed the article. I hope to meet you in the air!
Bob
thank you so much!
God bless.
Bob
You mention several times that your “proof” of a pre-tribulation rapture is that Jesus saves us from the wrath to come and that we’re not appointed to wrath. Those are both true statements but you have put God in a box by saying the only way God could possibly accomplish this is by taking His church out. We have precedent in the Bible to the contrary. God protected Israel through the wrath poured out on Egypt. God protected Noah through the flood, not by taking him out. God is fully capable of protecting His people through the tribulation if He so chooses. The Bible is quite ambiguous when it comes to the timing of the rapture and so we cannot be dogmatic about it. Any attempt to place it at any given point in the timeline has to be done with much speculation and by limiting God, as you have done. My position is that I don’t know when the rapture is going to occur and I’m OK with that. I feel that too many teachers are somehow afraid to say, “I don’t know” and thus risk giving incorrect information. If you are wrong about a pre-tribulation rapture, many of you’re readers may feel they were lied to and could possibly abandon their faith over something that really has nothing to do with one’s salvation. Would you be willing to stand before God with that on your record?
You have your opinion, and I have mine. I am not ashamed of what I teach and believe.
Thanks for your comment.
Yea we understood that you don’t know.
You make no sense! In those instances you mentioned, God TOLD Noah to build the boat! Those days were so evil that HE saved Noah and his family to repopulate the earth. Why would HE take them out, too? HE INSTRUCTED Moses and the Israelites what to do and made a way for them to get to the promised land! In the case of the Rapture, the Church Age is ENDING. The Gospel has been preached throughout the world. And, the world has become so evil! It’s now time to deal with the nation of Israel (as well as all unbelievers).
I am teaching a Women’s Bible Study group. They requested that we study Revelation for our next study. While I do not consider myself a teacher of Bible prophecy, I do think a reasonable study of the Book of Revelation is spiritually healthy. Thank you for collecting and putting in one place the reasons for your understanding of the end-time timeline. I am very comfortable with what you have taught. It is exactly as I have been taught for many years by Bible teachers in whom I have great respect. I am thankful for this clear presentation of this challenging topic.
Thank you for your encouragement! Enjoy your study!
Bob
Amen Adelle !!!
My spirit confirms and believes the exact teaching of what I have read here this evening of 2/8/23 from Va beach Va and I go to bed comforted by this truth of God in Christ Jesus our Lord!!
Thank you for this wonderful breakdown!
God Bless you! Thank you for your encouragement
Bob
I really needed to read this today, it confirms everything for me. The first time I ever heard of the rapture was Feb. 2023. I have been on a journey ever since. But today I watched a youtuber that made it sound like a mid-trib thing, that was the first time I heard mid-trib. So today I started another journey learning about that. I did email this youtuber with questions and they said they were a pre-triber. So after being totally lost with it all I watched Amir Tsarfati talk about it being a pre-trib rapture then reading your page I feel I have gone full circle now and am happy to be pre-trib rapture again.
Gods word is amazing.
bob
There is no such thing as the rapture before the tribulation. Jesus did not teach this nor his disciples. Jesus stated in matt 24 his second coming is after the tribulation
I strongly disagree. There is plenty of biblical evidence of a pre-trib rapture.
http://folcc.org/will-the-church-go-through-the-tribulation-six-reasons-why-not/
This is wonderful! Very helpful! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this !,Sheree
Thank you pastor for making it easier to understand I’m gonna share this with all my family and friends 🙏🏻
Thank you so much!
Bob
Hello Pastor Bob,
I have a question.
1) What is the “last day“? (St. John 6:35-40)
Hello Pastor Bob,
What is the “last day“ from St. John chapter 6 (verses 35 through 40)?
Thank you Pastor Bob as a minister myself I never heard it explained so well. I am glad I came across this because the other day mybqife came home and said the word rapture isn’t in the bible, then I knew somehow she came across someone teaching something other than pre tribulation. Thanks for being bold keep doing the work of the Lord and being real God bless. Dr Gary Happy Redd
Hello Pastor Bob,
I have a question.
What is the “last day?” (St. John 6:35-40)
The reason for the pre-tribulation rapture, which I believe will occur on September 17th, 2023, is because during the 70th week of Daniel here on earth, the church with her born again believers will be in heaven at 2 events. The Bema Judgement Seat of Christ, and for the Wedding Supper of the Lamb.
Be cautious setting dates.
I agree with you on all the rest.
Bob
Hello Mark! I found your September 17th, 2023 date for the Rapture very interesting. And I would love to talk with you further concerning your study and research of how you came to this knowledge. If you are open to such. My email is: tbmerriman@windstream.net. Please contact me. I look forward to hearing from you. Maybe you might be able to also assist me with my question concerning “What is the last day of St. John 6:35-40?” Few others have been honest or open enough in helping me with my understanding of this. Again I’m lookig forward to discussing these and possibly other biblical subjects for my understanding with you in the future, in a more private setting (My personal email). Very sincerely yours, Tim Merriman: from Charlotte, North Carolina.
Sorry bro but we are not allowed to build doctrine on one verse! I use to be a pretribber but after amassing every verse on the subject I had to humbly repent of the false ideology I believed!:
https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/
My theology of a pretribulation rapture is not built on one verse.
Bob.
Thank you for your break down of the rapture. Extremely well done! Looking forward to any teaching you have on the subject and on Revelations as a whole.
Thoughts, tribulation, Satan’s last hoo-rah. His wrath against mankind. God’s wrath at the end of the tribulation we will miss, or delivered from. 2Thess.2 after the tribulation of those days……..I’ve never heard a reasonable explanation. Tribulation has existed for thousands of years. I’m not one to say I’m right and others wrong but just a feeling I cannot “shake.” Christian from childhood, 83 years old and lived in Houston area over 60 years. Now in Lubbock, Texas. God Almighty bless you and yours. Linda
1st cor. 15:52 says the Rapture will be at the last Trump, 7th andTrump of Rev. 2nd thess 2:1-3 says our gathering together will not happen until the man of sin is revealed. Matt. 24:29-31 Jesus said He will come in the clouds and gather his elect from the four winds and from heaven. Dan.12:7 says the power of the holy people will be scattered not the Holy Spirit taken from earth. Dan.12:11-12 says the antichrist shall be 1,290 day’s Jesus returns in 1,335days, thats 45days later. Rev
. 15 and 16 is the hour of His wrath will come. So the Rapture takes place before His wrath.
We allowed to know the conditions for Christ return. Next opportunity will be on 2025 on the Jewish fest of Rosh Hashana. Note: it’s also called a Hidden Day. We must have the Blood Moon and Rosh Hashana together. Rosh Hashana in 2025 occurs on Late September.
Something to get you started
Revelation 7.3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.”
Revelation 7:9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
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1 Thessalonians 3:13 (KJV)To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 (KJV)
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 (KJV)
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Note: its important for the reader to understand that Jesus was given “All authority in heaven and on earth”. And, with this order “disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit seems very clear.Note Christ is the Lord. Reference the following chapters and versus as proof
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Romans 10:9 (KJV)
“If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”
Philippians 2:11 (KJV)
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Acts 2:32,36 (NIV)
“This Jesus has God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses…Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God has made that same Jesus, whom you have crucified, both Lord and Christ” (Acts 2:32,36).
Acts 10:36 (KJV)
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
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Matthew 28:18-20 (KJV) 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Matthew 28:18-20 (NIV) 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Revelation 14:13 (KJV) 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labous; and their works do follow them.
Galatians 3:26-28 (NIV) 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Note: Only those baptized into Christ could be clothed with white robes.
Revelation 7:9 (KJV) 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Note: Only those who have become a spirit can be before the throne of God. So it must follow that they have dead and have been baptized into Christ in order to receive the white robe.
Revelation 7:15 (KJV) Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (NIV)Believers Who Have Died
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord – Christ, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ – baptized into Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up – bodily into heaven/raptured together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
“Lord” is a phrase that can be described as the coming of the Christ. reference the four proofs just above“caught up” is another phrase used to describe the word the catching up bodily into heaven/rapture
“in Christ” is a phrase used to describe those who were baptized into Christ
“15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Christ, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
“16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead baptized into Christ will rise first”
“17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be raptured together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever”.
Note: what do we end up with after making the three changes referenced just above to 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (NIV) is the followng.
So now we take the verse “17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Christ in the air. And so we will be with the Christ forever. ” and replace the phrases “caught up” and “in Christ” with the proper names or phrases.
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Galatians 3:26-28 (ESV) gives us insight into the phrase “in Christ” and what it means. “In Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Paul is speaking to the Christians in Galatia, reminding them of their new identity since they placed their faith in Jesus Christ. To be “baptized into Christ” means that they were identified with Christ, having left their old sinful lives and fully embracing the new life in Christ (Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23). When we respond to the Holy Spirit’s drawing, He “baptizes” us into the family of God. First Corinthians 12:13 says, “For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.”
https://www.gotquestions.org/in-Christ.html
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Galatians 3:26-28
New International Version
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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First, there are many people who don’t believe in or try to deny the rapture of the church. And they will say things like the word rapture isn’t even found in the bible. That is true. You will not find the word rapture in an English bible. However, if you go back to the original language of Greek you will find a word harpazo, (ἁρπάζω), meaning “to snatch away” or “to seize,” and explains that believers in Jesus Christ will be snatched away from earth into the air. The word rapture is derived from Medival Latin raptura (“seizure, kidnapping”), which derives from the Latin raptus (“a carrying off”). They simply have taken a Latin word to describe the Greek word. So, if you were reading this in Latin, in Medival Latin you would find the word rapture. In every field of language there are words. It is unintelligent to not understand that people use words to describe things. This word simply has caught on to describe this catching away that will take place one day.
Kingdom Now’s denial of the rapture of the church is also unbiblical. The explanation that the rapture is nothing more than the people of God being caught up in rapturous feelings ignores the fact that such an application of the term “caught up” is strictly an idiomatic expression peculiar to English, not Greek. “I was all ‘caught up’ in the movie (or other excitement)” is not the equivalent of harpazo, used to describe the catching up bodily into heaven in 1 Thessalonians 4:17; 2 Corinthians 12:2-4; and Revelation 12:5. The word is also used in Acts 8:39, where Phillip is bodily “caught away” by the Spirit to another location.
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2 Corinthians 12:2-4
New International Version
2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
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Revelation 12:5
New International Version
5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
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Acts 8:39
New International Version
39 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing.
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Note: I submit that this to is an extent to Chapter 7 referenced above. The great multitude all addressed in white robes and baptized into Christ as a result of Christ’s reaping were not just all going to stand around on a cloud. These notes are a repeat from above.
Revelation 7:9 (KJV) 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Note: Only those who have become a spirit can be before the throne of God. So it must follow that they have dead and have been baptized into Christ in order to receive the white robe.
Revelation 7:15 (KJV) Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
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I thank that is now safe to believe that 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (NIV) referenced above can be used with Revelation 14:14-16 (KJV) and Revelation 7:10-16 to conclude that they they lead us to believe pre-tribuation rapture starts in Revelation 7:13.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (NIV)13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord – Christ, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ – baptized into Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up – bodily into heaven/raptured together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Revelation 14:14-16 (KJV) 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Note: Given authority to execute judgment is the Son of Man in both Revelation 14:14 and John 5.27.
John 5:26-27 (KJV) 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
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Revelation 7:10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” Revelation 14:13 A voice then follows from heaven blessing those who die baptized into Christ from this point on. Revelation 7:14 They have washed their robes and made them white with the blood of the Lamb. Revelation 7:15 This is why they are before God’s throne. The phrase”from this point on” was taken from Revelation 7:14 and seems to be a direct reference to the rapture. Otherwise we tasked with wondering how God is to deal
So how do we know the people dressed in white robes have been batized in Christ by referencing Revelation 7:13 of the Complete Jewish Bible below.
So how did the believers in Christ, all dressed in white robes per Revelation 7:14 appear before the throne of God. Christ followed Revelation 7:10 and Revelation 14:14-18, as presented below.
Proof 1 – taken directly from the Bible
Simply put using Galatians 3:27 shown below, those “In Christ” or “in the Lord” shows that you must be baptized in Christ.
Proof 2 – taken directly from the Bible
Revelation 7:13 Complete Jewish Bible
“One of the elders asked me, “These people dressed in white robes — who are they, and where are they from?” 14 “Sir,” I answered, “you know.” Then he told me, “These are the people who have come out of the Great Persecution. *They have washed their robes and made them white with the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before God’s throne.”
The following is not part of Revelations.
Note: Lamb is replaced with the (blood of Lamb) in the sentence below
When a repentant person complies with the command to be baptized (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38 et al), Yahushua’s(Christ), blood (blood of the Lamb) brings forgiveness of sins while the water of baptism cleanses from sin all in a single act of obedience!
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When a repentant person complies with the command to be baptized (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38 et al), Yahushua’s blood brings forgiveness of sins while the water of baptism cleanses from sin all in a single act of obedience! Blood also ratifies the New Covenant (Heb. 9:22; 10:29; Mark 14:24). Through Messiah, the dim light (the Old Covenant) came to its end, superseded by the New Covenant ratified through the covenant blood of him who is the True Light (John 1:9). In Yahushua we truly find “the more excellent way” alluded to by Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:31. (Paul also contrasts the letter of the old with the spirit of the new in Romans 2:29; 7:6.)
“What can wash away my sins?” What follows is a flow of praise: “Nothing but the blood of Christ! Oh, precious is the flow, that makes me white as snow!” I will never, ever be able to sing any of the old “baptism” hymns, discarded and outdated to so many, in the same way! They are precious reminders of the blood that still covers me, cleanses me and keeps my life hidden with Messiah in the eyes of my God. Yahuwah’s answer to the earnest question of my heart gave me “new eyes” to the all-important role that Yahushua’s blood and water baptism play in His great salvation plan. Years of faulty teaching on this topic have created a mass of people who are dangerously ignorant (I mean this in the kindest sense), of their need to be baptized “in the name of Yahushua for the forgiveness of sin” (Acts 2:38; 4:12; 10:48, 19:5; Luke 24:47).
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Revelation 14:14-18
New International Version
Harvesting the Earth and Trampling the Winepress
14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man[a] with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
17 Another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle. 18 Still another angel, who had charge of the fire, came from the altar and called in a loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, “Take your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the earth’s vine, because its grapes are ripe.”
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Notes:
I have a parable for your consideration regarding the harvest of grapes.
In the world of the first century, the grape harvest, otherwise called the “vintage,” was as distinct from the grain harvest as, say, Easter is from Thanksgiving. They occurred at two different times of the same year. The grain harvest was done by mid-June. Grapes were gathered in September and October. Thus, the judgment scene pictured in the verses of Revelation 14:17-18 shown above must be distinctly later and different from the grain harvest. In the grape harvest of September and October time frame, believers in the Kingdom of God just prior to Messiah(Jesus) returning were identifying time frames based on the occurrence of specific Feasts. The Feast of Trumpets (Rosh HaShanah) occurs JUST BEFORE the Feast of Tabernacles in the September and October time frame.
The Feast of Trumpets (Rosh HaShanah) occurs JUST BEFORE the Feast of Tabernacles which represents the final harvest or the gathering of believers into the Kingdom of God occurs just prior to Messiah (Jesus) returning.
https://messianic-revolution.com/l23-32-sukkots-21-trumpet-blasts-linked-21-judgements-revelations/
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NOTE:The Jewish people call this Feast of Trumpets Rosh Hashanah, or “the head of the year” because they believe that God created the heavens and the earth on this day. https://promisestoisrael.org/jewish-culture-2/jewish-holidays/rosh-hashanah-the-feast-of-trumpets/
Beginning in the spring, the seven Jewish feasts are Passover (Pesach), the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Firstfruits, the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost), the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh HaShanah), the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur), and the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot).
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Feast of Trumpets (Rosh HaShanah)
“The fact that the Son of Man and the angels in the above verses are all holding sickles hints at the fact that the events described above may have transpired during the harvest months. The major Jewish holidays coincided with the various harvests. Passover was during the barley harvest. Pentecost occurred during the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Tabernacles, during the grape harvest. The fact that Jesus and the angels from the Temple are holding sickles points to both the barley and wheat harvests. Both barley and wheat were harvested with a sickle. The barley harvest began around Passover, in the middle of Nisan. The wheat harvest began in Sivan around Pentecost. The grape harvest is also alluded to in v. 18. In Revelation 14:18 sickles are used by the angels to cut grape clusters from the vine. The fact that vs. 14-18 allude to both the grain and grape harvests implies that the heavenly events mentioned above took place sometime around Nisan at the start of the barley harvest and ended around Tishri during the grape harvest. The events of vs. 14-18 are also mentioned in Revelation 8:1-6 and Revelation 15:5-16:1.”
“Thus it is not surprising that the Bible also refers to the end of the age as a harvest in Matthew 13:39: “The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.”
Not surprisingly, first century historians describe various supernatural events that seem to fulfill these verses during the months of the grain and grape harvests at the start of the Jewish War in A.D. 66. It, therefore, does not appear to be a coincidence that the Jews began their revolt against Rome during the barley harvest in A.D. 66, and the Roman offensive under Cestius began at the start of the grape harvest that same year.
In the following Preterist Bible commentary on Revelation 14, the reader will be exposed to startling historical evidence of the fulfillment Revelation 14 during the Jewish War. In Revelation 14:6-11 angels shout out warnings of impending judgment to the people of Babylon, which is Jerusalem, similar to the voice warning of disaster mentioned by Josephus. Was this the threatening voices of the three angels of vs. 6-11? In Revelation 14:14-18 angels depart from the Temple and call out to Jesus who is seated on the clouds of heaven holding a sickle in preparation for the harvest at the end of the age. Could the fact that Jesus and the angels in vs. 14-18 are holding sickles hint at the fact that the events described in these verses transpired during the harvest months? Yes. The Jews revolted against Rome during the barley harvest, and the Roman offensive began at the start of the grape harvest hence the sickle imagery and grape harvest symbolism in these verses. Revelation 14:20 then predicts that blood will flow as high as a horse’s bridle for 1,600 stadia. The Jordan River is EXACTLY 1,600 Stadia and was bloodied during Jewish War. Read the following preterist commentary on Revelation 14 to see the stunning historical fulfillment of these prophecies–the more miraculous the prophecy, the more amazing the historical fulfillment!
A Realized Eschatology Exposition and Commentary of Revelation 14:14: Josephus May Have Recorded the Departure of the Glory Cloud or Shekinah from the Temple at the Start of the Jewish Revolt in A.D. 66.
The presence of God also called the Shekinah or Glory Cloud was believed to be ever present in the Most Holy Place of the Temple above the Ark of the Covenant according to Exodus 25:22. During the sixth century B.C., before the destruction of Solomon’s temple, Ezekiel saw the Glory Cloud depart from the Temple and travel east to the Mount of Olives according to Ezekiel 10:18-19; 11:22-23. Interestingly, the same thing may have been reported in A.D. 66 before the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. In Wars of the Jews, Josephus records what appears to be the departure of the Shekinah or Glory Cloud from the Most Holy Place: “[A]t that feast which we call Pentecost [of A.D. 66], as the priests were going by night into the inner temple…they felt a quaking and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, ‘Let us remove hence [emphasis mine].’”6 The fact that a supernatural voice was heard to declare that it was leaving the Temple seems to point to the departure of the Shekinah from the Temple before its destruction. Furthermore, in Ezekiel 1:24 the voice of the Almighty is said to sound like the voice of a multitude: “And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host[.]”7 The departure of the Lord from the Temple may also be described by the pagan historian Tacitus who writes, “A sudden lightening flash from the clouds lit up the Temple. The doors of the holy place abruptly opened, a superhuman voice was heard to declare that the gods were leaving it, and in the same instant came the rushing tumult of their departure.”8 While amidst the Glory Cloud, God was believed to be present in the company of angelic beings according to Deuteronomy 33:2 and Ezekiel 1. This rushing tumult appears to be the sound of the Lord Jesus Christ departing from the inner sanctuary of the Temple in the company of the heavenly host in the Glory Cloud.
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Revelation 14:9-13 is a third angel following the first two warning everyone not to take the mark of the beast because anyone that does will drink of the wrath of God. It is made clear this is a choice to separate yourself from God eternally if you take the mark. It is followed by an instruction that the “patience” of the saints is keeping the Commandments of God and faith in Yeshua. A voice then follows from heaven blessing those who die in Christ from this point on. This is a big indicator for me that these passages in Revelation 14 are actually occurring back in the Revelation 7 timeframe. That is when the harpazo takes place and additionally that would also be the point when the mark of the beast began being implemented.
Harvest from the earth
Revelation 14:14-20 further supports the above belief that places the events of Revelation 14 at the same timeframe of Revelation 7 when we see the sickle harvest where one sits upon a cloud that is like the Son of man with a golden crown and sharp sickle. Another angel comes out of the temple to let him know it is time to reap. I find this particularly interesting because only the Father knows the day or hour of Christ’s coming. Matthew 24:36-39 | Matthew 24:50-51 | Mark 13:32-37 | Matthew 25:1-13 | Luke 12:41-48 These scriptures also tie this timing to the sudden destruction of the day of the Lord or the day of Christ. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 speaks of our gathering to Christ on the day of Christ and around the timing of the abomination of desolation.
So an angel coming out of the temple where the Father dwells to tell this one that looks like the Son of man to reap because the harvest is ready seems to fit very well to the gathering of the bride of Christ to Himself, who is on a cloud, to meet Him in the air. John 14:1-3
A second angel having a sharp sickle, who has the power over fire, is prompted by a call from an angel in the temple to gather the clusters of the vine of the earth because the grapes are fully ripe. I find it interesting that God’s wrath came once by water (flood) and will come at the end by fire. “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.” This sounds a lot to me like the beginning of the wrath of God after the gathering of the harvest. This removes us before the wrath of God as well. We are not gathered and cast into the great winepress of the wrath of God, we are reaped from the earth by one who looks like the Son of man on a cloud.
This whole chapter seems to me to jump back to the timeframe of the 144,000 and the harpazo of the bride back in Revelation 7. It gives further insight to the coming judgment and the order of gathering, first of the bride of Christ from the earth at the harpazo, then to cast the rest into the time of the wrath of God beginning the 1,000 year day of the Lord. 2 Peter 3:8-10 | Psalm 90:4
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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
King James Version
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
New International Version
Believers Who Have Died
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
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Revelation 11:15
New International Version
The Seventh Trumpet
15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:
“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”
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Galatians 3:26-28
New International Version
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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Simply put in Galatians 3:27 those “In Christ” or “in the Lord” means that your are baptized in Christ.
Galatians 3:26-28 gives us insight into the phrase “in Christ” and what it means. 26 So”In Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Paul is speaking to the Christians in Galatia, reminding them of their new identity since they placed their faith in Jesus Christ. To be “baptized into Christ” means that they were identified with Christ, having left their old sinful lives and fully embracing the new life in Christ (Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23). When we respond to the Holy Spirit’s drawing, He “baptizes” us into the family of God. First Corinthians 12:13 says, “For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.”
https://www.gotquestions.org/in-Christ.html
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
King James Version
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
New International Version
Believers Who Have Died
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
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Galatians 3:26-28 gives us insight into the phrase “in Christ” and what it means. “In Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Paul is speaking to the Christians in Galatia, reminding them of their new identity since they placed their faith in Jesus Christ. To be “baptized into Christ” means that they were identified with Christ, having left their old sinful lives and fully embracing the new life in Christ (Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23). When we respond to the Holy Spirit’s drawing, He “baptizes” us into the family of God. First Corinthians 12:13 says, “For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.”
https://www.gotquestions.org/in-Christ.html
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But the most obvious hint is the nature of the two harvests in this chapter. Verses 14-16 are the wheat harvest and verses 17-20 are the grape harvest, which in literal history are separated by a period of time. Kendall Easley’s commentary says,
In the world of the first century, the grape harvest, otherwise called the “vintage,” was as distinct from the grain harvest as, say, Easter is from Thanksgiving. They occurred at two different times of year. The grain harvest was done by mid-June. Grapes were gathered in September and October. Thus, the judgment scene pictured in these verses must be distinctly later than the grain harvest. How much later?…[3]
He does not know because he is looking to the future for a fulfillment. His exegesis is right; he just doesn’t have the period right. But if verses 17-20 have to come after the harvest of verses 14-16, and if verses 14-16 have to come after the events of verses 6-13, then it is crystal clear when these verses happened. There was only one time in Jewish history when this could have happened – the war of Bar Kochba.
In Revelation 14:14-18 angels depart from the Temple and call out to Jesus who is seated on the clouds of heaven holding a sickle in preparation for the harvest at the end of the age. Could the fact that Jesus and the angels in vs. 14-18 are holding sickles hint at the fact that the events described in these verses transpired during the harvest months? Yes. The Jews revolted against Rome during the barley harvest, and the Roman offensive began at the start of the grape harvest hence the sickle imagery and grape harvest symbolism in these verses. Revelation 14:20 then predicts that blood will flow as high as a horse’s bridle for 1,600 Stadia. The Jordan River is EXACTLY 1,600 Stadia and was bloodied during Jewish War.
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15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I believe you’re going to enjoy this little part. The Rapture, the Hidden Day, The Blood Moon. Contain the Year (Blood Moon) and the Month for Rosh Hashana. You and I, will are not allowed to know the Day and Time. But, now we are allowed to know the conditions – on a Blood Moon and on the feast of Rosh Hashana. I will enjoy the short video below too.
Note before reading: at the last trumpet in “1 Corinthians 15:52” is the key. In Revelation 11:15 the last trumpet is heard. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the seventh angel or archangel “Michael” with the trumpet call of God.
But here is the real surprise for me. Feast of Trumpets is Yom HaKeseh or the Hidden Day occurred on the day of the Rapture is concealed as to when it starts. It can only start when the moon begins to reflect again. The New Moon of Tishrei is neither announced nor blessed in the synagogue. The term keseh or keceh is derived from the Hebrew root kacah, which means to “conceal, cover, or hide. There is of course more to this story and worth your read.
The important is this. It occurs once per year under a very specific set of events. Example: In 2023, Rosh Hashana begins at sundown on September 15 and ends at nightfall on September 17. It seems Rosh Hashana is scheduled to occur in the Hebrew Year 5786 begins at sundown on Monday, 22 September 2025 and ends at nightfall on Wednesday, 24 September 2025.
This is reportedly how New Moon of Rosh Hashana appears
Where have you seen a similar video lately – the Blood Moon <——-
https://c.tadst.com/gfx/eclipses2/20250907/anim2d-380.mp4
Revelation 8:2
New International Version
And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.
1 Thessalonian’s 4:16
New International Version
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Revelation 9:13
New International Version
The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God.
Revelation 10:6 And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, “There will be no more delay! 7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”
Revelation 10:8 Then the voice that I had heard from heaven spoke to me once more: “Go, take the scroll that lies open in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land.”
Revelation 11:15
The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”
The Feast of Trumpets is when the “last trump” of the Rapture of 1 Cor. 15 is blown.
(1 Corinthians 15:51 New International Version Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed. 15: 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.)
One more cool thing! The Feast of Trumpets is also called Yom Hakeseh – The Hidden Day – because it is the only holy day designated by the LORD to be kept on a new moon. In ancient Israel, sighting the small sliver of the new moon could be challenging and unpredictable. Unlike the other feast days, no one could precisely calculate the exact day or hour the festival could begin. (That’s why even today, two days are reserved for the Feast in case the moon isn’t visible on the first night).
https://iamisraelfilm.com/pages/article-feast-of-trumpets
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In this post, we explore some of the main prophetic points of this Holy Day. The Feast of Trumpets symbolizes the Rapture – the last great harvest. In 2023, Rosh Hashana begins at sundown on September 15 and ends at nightfall on September 17.
https://raptureandendtimes.com/2023/01/10/the-feast-of-trumpets/
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The Feast of Trumpets symbolizes the Rapture – the last great harvest. In 2023, Rosh Hashana begins at sundown on September 15 and ends at nightfall on September 17.
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. (1 Corinthians 15:50-52)
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2023/01/the-feast-of-trumpets-2537373.html
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Another idiom for the Feast of Trumpets is Yom HaKeseh – the Hidden Day.
Of all the feasts, Yom Teruah is the most mysterious one. There are few scriptures about it. The primary reference is Leviticus 23:23-25:
And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall observe a day of solemn rest, a memorial proclaimed with blast of trumpets, a holy convocation. You shall not do any ordinary work, and you shall present a food offering to the Lord.”
Yom HaKeseh, meaning “The Day of the Hiding” or “the Hidden Day.” It is the feast that is concealed as to when it starts. It can only start when the moon begins to reflect again. The New Moon of Tishrei is neither announced nor blessed in the synagogue. The term keseh or keceh is derived from the Hebrew root kacah, which means to “conceal, cover, or hide.” Every day during the month of Elul, a trumpet is blown to warn the people to turn back to G-d, except for the last day of Elul, the day preceding Rosh HaShanah (Elul 29 is known as the “Day of Release” at the end of a Shemita year.) On that day, the trumpet is not blown, because it was hidden from Satan, the adversary. It is taught that the Shofar does not blow on this day so that Satan does not know the day of judgment begins.
https://forthosewhoareinterested.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/yom-hakeseh-the-hidden-day/
What is Revelation 2:10 referring to? Don’t be afraid of what you are about to suffer. You will suffer for 10 days. If you remain faithful even when facing death, I will give you the crown of life. This confuses me into thinking awful things will happen to Christians before the Rapture?
http://folcc.org/the-church-in-smyrna-shows-us-the-second-church-age-the-persecuted-church/
Perhaps this article will shed some light.
Bob
So do we have to be baptized to be raptured?
I don’t think so, the thief on the cross went to paradise with Christ. On the other hand, why would a true believer not really want to follow the Lord in water baptism?
Just saying.
If you aren’t baptized in water, Get baptized.
Bob
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The problem with this view (mid-trib rapture) is that the two witnesses are Jews and not members of the church. It also allows Christians to receive at least partially the wrath of God.
MY COMMENT
God’s Two Witnesses will be Messianic Christians who will be preaching Jesus Christ crucified and risen on the third day.
The wrath of God doesn’t commence until the exact half-way point in the seven-year tribulation at Revelation 11:18, so no Christians will not partially experience the Wrath of God.
Are we in the generation that will see the rapture? What will it feel like flying in the air? Do we change like Jesus before we fly upward.?
We dont really know if we are in that generation. The bible says not to set dates.
I am sure it will feel amazing to fly in the air.
Yes, We will be changed in the moment in the twinkling of an eye.
I will see you in the clouds soon.
Bob
Great teaching and awesome revelation
I recently went through this, in great depth, and the scripture is overwhelming clear on the timeline.
It’s literally linear, in the Book of Revelation.
There are various limiting factors, which make it clear that both he hasn’t come, as well as his people are still present, before Revelation 19.
That’s why so many Calvinists and Pre-Trib folks also adhere to dispensations, multiple gospels, and even multiple raptures, because they can’t reconcile the ideological teachings of their movements, with the scriptures.
Take a look at my end times post, and the graphic at the bottom of the page.
Jesus doesn’t return, until after the seven seals, seven trumpets, seven vials of wrath, and the Judgment of Babylon.
Right, that is the glorious appearing.
The rapture of the church is prior to the Tribulation.
Bob
I am not a calvinist nor do I believe in multiple gospels or raptures.
What to expect between Rev 4:1 to Rev. 6:16-17
Without following the directions of Rev. 1:19 you may not understand the content of Rev. 4:1. Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are and the things which shall be hereafter.
Sequence is Rev. 1:19–>Rev. 4:1–>1Thess. 4:16-17–>1 Cor. 15: 51-52–>Rev. 6:16-17 and maybe Rev. 14:19 for the unbelievers
things which are
Rev. 4.1 (NKJV) After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.” (reference to John).
believers to be reaped/ which shall be hereafter
1 Thess. 4(KJV) 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Cor. 15(KJV) 51 Behold, I tell you a [a]mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the “last trumpet.” For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Footnotes
1 Cor. 15:51 hidden truth
Rapture
1 Corinthians 15 (KJV) 52 In a moment, in the “twinkling of an eye”, at the “last trump”: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Rapture occurs at the first wrath
Rev. 6:16-17, is therefore the “last trump” and will occur in a “twinkling of an eye” along with the first, wrath
It seems apparent that Rev. 6:16-17 raptures the believers while the unbelievers could be sent through the “great winepress of the wrath of God”, at Rev. 14:19.
Hi Bob
Very good explanation, just a few thoughts.
I believe as you, that the “rapture” is in view in chapter 4.
How ever I see no evidence or scripture actually being fulfilled.
1/ John is called to “see” or be shown “things” meta tauta or after these things.
2/ The experience John goes through in coming up here, is one of a request, not a snatching away or seizing or Hapazo.
3/ The event takes place in Heaven
and not in the air as per rapture in 1Thes 4:17.
4/ The rapture has already taken place, as John “sees” the events that take place after the rapture.
5/ All the saints are already in Heaven worshiping Him who sits on the throne Rev 4:9-11. Throwing down their crowns that only raptured saints will wear.
The only other time the word “hapazo” is used in Revelation is Chapter 12.
As usual there are many viewpoints on this chapter, however I pray God Blesses your work and pray for wisdom UNTIL HE RETURNS.
If interested I can share a little more on this subject as to the rapture in chap 4 and chap 12 as occurring at the same time.
Steve
(1 Thes. 5:9 explained) (V. 9) “For God hath not appointed us to wrath.” This shows the intended contrast between believers and unbelievers at the time of the first stage of His coming, called the rapture. God has designed for us as believers that we should “obtain (Gr. Peripoiēsis-possess) salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ at His coming.” (Revelation 3:10) (V. 10) “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”
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Bible results for “church” from
King James Version.
Revelation 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; <—————— CHURCH BEGINS
Revelation 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Revelation 1:20
The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Revelation 2:1
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation 2:8
And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
Revelation 2:11
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Revelation 2:12
And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Revelation 2:18
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
Revelation 2:23
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Revelation 2:29
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:1
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
Revelation 3:6
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:7
And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
Revelation 3:13
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Revelation 3:22
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. <—— CHURCH IS GONE!
Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.<—CHURCH BACK!
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Bible results for “wrath” from
New King James Version.
Results 1-14.
Revelation 6:16
and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb<—————WARTH BEGINS
Revelation 6:17
For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
Revelation 11:18
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”
Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
Revelation 14:8
And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”
Revelation 14:10
he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Revelation 14:17
Reaping the Grapes of Wrath
Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
Revelation 14:19
So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Revelation 15:1
Prelude to the Bowl Judgments
Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous: seven angels having the seven last plagues, for in them the wrath of God is complete.
Revelation 15:7
Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives forever and ever.
Revelation 16:1
The Seven Bowls
Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go and pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth.”
Revelation 16:19
Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.
Revelation 18:3
For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
Revelation 19:15
Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. <——————– WARTH STOPS!
Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.<—CHURCH RESTARTS!!
YOU’RE AT THE FIST IF TO RAPTURES – FIRST BY PAUL AND SECOND BY JOHN AT 14:14-16. THAT’S RIGHT.
NOT CONVINCED, THEN, WHAT HAPPEN TO THE CHURCHES AROUND 14:14-16. NOW LOOK AT THE OTHER END OF THE LIST. NOTE: THIS LIST IS ONLY FROM REVELATION.
NOW THAT YOU KNOW.- READ THIS WARNING.
Christ’s coming will be unexpected (24:43, 44). (V. 43) “But know this, that if the goodman of the house (the head of the family) had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered (permitted) his house to be broken up.” (V. 44) “Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”
Hi ,
ln this article it is quoted :
## But the teaching of the rapture, the coming of
Christ for his church is that he could come at any moment. ##
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Lord Jesus will not come
at any moment,He Himself
had given the signs & sequence of His coming in the air, in Matt. 24, Mark 13:5_27 & Luke 21.& said, “Behold, I have told you before.” ( Matt. 24 : 25 )
The sequence is :
A) Arrival of Antichrist, that is Tribulation period of 3 &1/2 yrs
( Matthew 24 :4-14)
B) Rapture of the church
( Matthew 24 : 30,31)
C) Great Tribulation period
of 3 &1/2 yrs, ( Rev. 13 :5)
The signs:
A (Matthew 24 :1-14) says,
‘False Christs & prophets
will appear & deceive
many. Wars,famines, pesti
lences & earthquakes in divers places will take
place.Sorrows, hatred in each other will begin. lniquities & persecution,
will abound, & the love of many shall wax cold.’
B) ( Matt.24 : 29-31):
‘Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened,
& the moon shall not give her light & the stars shall
fall from heaven & the powers of the heavens
shall be shaken:Then
shall appear the sign of
the Son of man in heaven:
& then shall all the tribes
of the earth mourn & they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a
great sound of a trumpet,
& they shall gather toge
ther his elect from the
four winds, from one end
of heaven to the other.
C) ( Revelation 13 :5):
‘And there was given unto him( Antichrist ) a mouth speaking great things & blasphemies & power was given unto him to continue forty & two months.’
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The rapture of the church is a signless event and could happen at any moment.
Respectfully agree to disagree
Bob
I PRAISE GOD!!!, for your teaching I was praying for months asking FaTHER if we the church will be here for the great tribulation. I was very confused, by the Grace of FATHER IN JESUS NAME, I was on Google look up the word rapture and came across your teachings. FATHER answer my question👏 . I pray that FATHER will continue to give you wisdom and revelation of is word.
Shalom. 👑📖🙌🙌🙌😃